First of all, before I begin this essay (I know not what else to call it) I wish to warn my reader(s) that it may be considered objectionable to many. It discusses my personal views of sex, sexuality, sexual orientation and sexual activity.
I delve in to areas which more conservative persons, persons by the way whom I love dearly, my find highly offensive and which find root in what many may pejoratively describe as radical Christianity… a "radicalness" which may be just too "over the top". I would encourage my reader(s) to proceed with caution, but with an open mind. Should such a thing as a ratings system exist for blog writing or at least for this style of writing, it is highly probable that censors might consider this to be rated X, or at the very least, NC-17. If you feel that your sense of outrage or offense may be too great, I encourage you NOT to proceed.
Secondly, what follows does not flow as well as I would like. It is filled with "asides", comments made to flesh out what I’m writing about.
With that in mind, if you have the time, and more importantly the inclination and stomach, please read on!
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Over the past few weeks I have come across three or four related "items" on the internet that have either not set well with me, or have caused me to think… and that’s always dangerous! I wish to address these "items" individually, and in no particular order.
Is Love Profane?
This morning, I was visiting a friend’s blog. On it, I found a picture: two shirtless young men engaged in a sweet embrace, kissing; behind the young men hung a crucifix.
The picture was captioned "The sacred and the profane." It gave me pause, for the caption bothered me enough that I actually looked up the adjective "profane" in the online edition of Merriam Webster’s Dictionary. Looking under the usage for the adjective the first definition of the word does, indeed, fit the caption, and in and of itself really shouldn’t have caused me any reason for discomfort.
But, taken in the context of all 4 definitions of the word "profane" I find it far more difficult to dismiss my discomfort over the choice of words. When viewed together the four definitions for "profane" certainly convey a negative meaning, as if somehow, unless something is imbued with religious or spiritual overtones (and is therefore "sacred") it is necessarily less than desirable.
I find the picture of two men, perhaps in love, perhaps not, but behaving in such a manner as to imply love to be perhaps far more sacred than the picture of a crucifix, the image of a person hated and despised and hung to die. Perhaps the ultimate profanity is that image of a crucifix, while the ultimate sacred act is the two people in love.
If my readers are still reading this after that last paragraph, let me hasten to point out that the image of the crucifix portrays an extremely important event, one with perhaps the penultimate act of sacred-ness in our Christian tradition. (And less you wonder, for me the ULTIMATE sacred act is the Resurrection.) It was a necessary event, but one that had to happen only so that the next event could take place. This article is not to, in any way, denigrate the series of events that form the basis of most Christian theology, but rather to lament that we should find two people in love being somehow a profane thing.
How is it that we come to perceive demonstrations of love to be profane? If one accepts that God is love, and that the primary message of the Gospels is one of love, both of God for humankind and also the importance, perhaps even primacy of the need for one to love one’s neighbor (and remember who Jesus said our neighbor was) is the portrayal of an action depicting love somehow less sacred? Love, in this context, and in my opinion, is sacred and can in no way be profane. (To my friend who may well read this, please do not read in my words a condemnation of you in any way – I think I know you well enough to know that you did not choose the word for its negative connotation, but rather for its primary use as "secular".)
Is Sexuality/Orientation Good or Bad?
Another of my online friends writes a blog which I attempt in some small way to support financially, as I consider it to be an important contribution to society. This friend writes from a definitely non-mainstream perspective, and is therefore one of the most refreshing voices I currently encounter online. Nor is she all that radical (sorry, Kitt!) Perhaps to those of a particularly conservative Christian point of view she may be viewed as such, but I do not perceive her writing overly radical. Just perhaps a bit… queer!
Kitt’s posts are all about, in my humble opinion, the extravagant, redemptive love of God. One of her methods is to look for and write about saints that may be relevant exemplars of that love for the LGBTQI community. Perhaps to my family, seeing articles about "Gay (or Lesbian) Saints" may be problematic, but these are highly relevant to those of us seeking to live and perceive ourselves in positive light in the face of a church that until recently has painted us in very negative light indeed. Many of us (certainly not all) struggle still against the self hatred and self doubt imposed upon us by the churches of our childhood and youth, many of which today have taken up very active combat against us.
Yes, Kitt writes about LGBTQI Saints, and serves as a news source to us on the writings of theologians who write from a queer perspective or artists who depict things of a religious/spiritual nature in the rainbow lights of a queer perspective.
In the second "item" I encountered, a commenter to Kitt’s blog rebuked Kitt for writing about a particular, possibly lesbian, saint, and said, in summary, that Kitt should focus on the best of this saint – namely those attributes for which the saint in question was canonized – and not the worst of this saint – namely the possible orientation of the saint. It is as troubling to me that one would perceive one’s orientation as being either the best OR the worst of a person, as it is to see a picture of two kissing lovers labeled in such a way as to elicit (at least in myself) a negative reaction.
We are who we are, by God’s Grace and by God’s gift. God gave us all, straight or gay or otherwise, the gift of our sexuality, a gift to be used in many ways. Sexuality was not given us merely to serve to create children, though in that service it is certainly beneficial and good… and indeed sacred. Sexuality was also given us to nurture our love, one for another, and as a means of expressing that love… a service that is of no less (and of course no greater) value than that of procreation… and is therefore sacred. Sexuality also was given for our pleasure, and I see this as no less sacred. I’m sure others can do much greater service to this discussion and add ways in which our sexuality can be put to use.
Can sexuality be bad? No, I really don’t think so. Can SEX be bad. In general, again I say I do not think so. There are, however exceptions to this latter. For me, there is one single criterion for determining the "goodness" of any sexual behavior or activity. Is the sexual behavior/activity mutual, entered in to with mutual and informed consent. Here’s where the "slippery slope" argument loses, in my opinion. It is often opined by some on the right that if society accepts homosexual marriage and behavior, where will it all end… they point to the requirement to then accept such things as bestiality and pedophilia and all manner of horrors. And yet, none of these can be entered into on a mutually acceptable, informed and consensual basis. I don’t really intend to develop this thought beyond this. Maybe some other day.
There is, in short, to my way of thinking, no way in which mutually informed and consensual sexuality and sex can be used in a negative manner.
In fact, I should finish my reaction to this comment by saying far from being the worst aspect of this particular saints’ life, her sexuality is perhaps among the highest and best qualities of her life, that which makes her particularly worthy of emulation for those who identify with her. For it is her devotion and love for the one who may have been her life-partner that is most worthy of emulation.
Queer Thoughts.
The final comment, that which is actually first in time of this trilogy of troubling experiences for me, also pertains to Kitt’s blogs, one which reports on new theological writings from a theologian in New Zealand.
Here, another "aside" is called for. We find ourselves living in what many refer to as the "Post-Modern" era. It is an era in which scientific study, discovery and theory have tossed out what has become for many of us a "comfortable" theology. It is an era in which society is no longer homogeneous. Our society is heterogeneous, we live amongst all sorts of people of all sorts of racial, national and religious backgrounds. We probably include amongst our friends a varied collection of all sorts of peoples from all corners of the globe. In reality, this post modern era with its focus on scientific discovery and theory makes it very difficult to reconcile our theology with what is known about the world around us. Because of this, I tend to consider theology that serves to reinforce old, comfortable ways of thinking as being, for me, largely irrelevant. I WANT what I read about theology and spirituality to discomfort me, to cause my stomach to churn, to force my brain to think. I want it relevant and irreverent, theology should trouble, not soothe. For me, this is good, this makes me alive, forces me to consider God in ways that I never heretofore would have.
This particular theologian about whom Kitt writes, posits a different Jesus from that portrayed elsewhere, reads the Gospels in an altogether new, and erotic fashion, and fashions a Jesus that makes virtually everyone uncomfortable… a Queer Jesus. Now, if my readers are STILL reading after all of this, I owe you an apology. This writing is already becoming uncomfortably long to me. And so, I cannot justify explaining in depth the word Queer in the context in which I write here. Do not think of Queer solely in its modern sense, a pejorative and denigrating word referring to LGBTQI people. Consider its’ original meaning, of something outside the norm, odd, unusual. Numerous books have been written about this new/old use of Queer to refer to modern theological efforts, among which are considerations of "Queering the Bible", "Queering the apostles", etc. If you ask, I’ll attempt to provide a bibliography of such.
In his writing about Jesus, his "Queering of" Jesus, if you will, he makes reference to Jesus walking along the seashore and calling out to various fisher-folk to leave what they are doing and follow him. As we know, numbers did… and we refer to them today as apostles. Peter, James & John come to mind. But this writer sees Jesus, not out walking, but "cruising". And it is to this that the second comment (my third "experience") is addressed. The individual who commented on this writer’s use of cruising seemed to take great umbrage at this. I have to admit that my initial response was one of queasiness. But the commenter’s offense really caused me to step back and look at the passage again. Whereas the commenter was offended to think of Jesus out cruising (a word with almost universal sexual connotation) I was struck by how (if I accept the writer’s portrayal) what might have started out as a "crass search for casual sex" instead resulted in deep relationships, lasting a lifetime… and millennia.
I guess what it comes down to is this. I reject the notion that sex is in and of itself a negative. I find, instead, that sex is primarily and fundamentally a positive, good "thing". To personalize this, my own relationship with my husband began as an act of "cruising". It has become for me, and I firmly believe, in the eyes of God, a most wondrous and beautiful expression of who I was, who I am, and who I am becoming. I categorically and emphatically reject the supposition that cruising is in and of itself bad, anymore than any expression of sexuality is bad. In so doing, I also recognize that I am categorically rejecting any teaching of any establishment which portrays sex, sexuality, sexual orientation or sexual activity (at least those that do not fall into the categories I defined earlier) as being immoral. What is immoral is precisely that negative portrayal of these gifts of God in our lives. And to the degree that institutions seek to portray these gifts as immoral, I see those institutions themselves as fundamentally immoral.
That’s why I took the photo down. You see there are two sides to life, the sacred and the profane. Some might see two boys kissing as profane, the crucifix is the ultimate christian icon. Gay sex is often labeled profane. And in my studies and writings on the sacred and the profane, I understand them both intimately.
Yes, the photo was worth the shock value it meant to be as I posted it, but I ultimately decided to take it down fearing it would cause an uproar. You can’t have the sacred without the profane. Where the two meet divine love manifests.
Sorry I turned your world upside down.
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Jeremy,
You didn’t… I loved the photo. I just do not believe that any image of love can ever be truly profane.
I am truly sorry you took the photo down.
Eric
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WOW–Sorry to say, but you can not in any Bible find The word Saint or Saints–This is a made up Catholic worship! Actually the only reason who have Catholics is because they, the Catholic priest went tho the Roman Empire for protection from Gingus Khan, for when he was ravaging the world, all that was left for him to capture and rape, was the churches and their riches. So the priest went to the Roman Empire and asked for protection from Khan and the Roman Empire said only if you come under our reign and pay us taxes directly and be called Roman Catholics from this day forward! Now they are known as Roman Catholics- and that is the rest of the story!
Let me know say what people do or don’t do with their bodies is their business and they and only they will answer to God on their judgement day–No matter how many books or professors or doctrines or whatever re-write the bible There is only one way to live and that is Gods way through Jesus Christ-no other! Not made up rules to fit their life style or time in history because we should be more tolerant–Remember -our God is a jealous God!! His own words through his Son are the way-the only way!
He laid down the rules and the way-no exceptions-no feel good stories or feel good ideas or services get you there.
As far is this bad or is that bad–well he (Jesus ) laid down his fathers law-Gods law, you choose to live it or not! I nor anyone on this planet has the right to say or judge where anyone will go-but, all Christians have the responsibility to spread his word as we hear his word! For no mans actions are a sin until he hears that his actions are! That being said does not mean a sin means anything more than that, as a sin does not condemn any one to eternity in hell-That is for our father Almighty to judge- not for any human on earth!
But I would be truly remiss if I didn’t say my beliefs how ever off your beaten path it may be-I only live and spread the word of Jesus as how I read his Holy word!
Not only are we held accountable for our sins, but also for our actions as to serving and spreading his word to save souls–Our lives here on Earth are not about our joy, happiness and pleasures-BUT how did we live for him and how many souls have we robbed the devil from having!
Amen Brothers
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Eric, I am amazed by your honesty, your well reasoned theology, and your kind words about me. Thank you! I have posted links to and highlights from this essay at the Jesus in Love Blog as comments on the original posts that you discuss here.
I’d love to see that “sacred and profane” photo. Is it still available anywhere?
I agree that sexuality is good, but it can be expressed in destructive ways. I like your idea of using mutuality as the criterion for judging sexual behavior. But I wonder if it is enough? I wonder about two cases: adultery and sexually transmitted diseases.
Two people may mutually consent to sex, but what if one or both are married and promised sexual fidelity? Sex doesn’t happen in a vacuum — others are affected. Myles (the New Zealand theologian) was mostly referring to the men leaving their jobs as fishermen. But the Bible also refers later to Peter’s wife… that means Peter left his wife to follow Jesus. I personally find it impossible to believe that Jesus would lure a married person into a sexual encounter. Jesus never talked about homosexuality in the Bible, but he did speak against adultery (while sternly warning others not to cast the first stone of condemnation). However, one of Jesus’ most challenging teachings was that people had to leave their families to follow God. What does it all mean?
Sexual encounters with many different partners, even if completely mutual, increase the risk of sexually transmitted diseases. We saw the tragic results with AIDS. Maybe this is not a question of morality, but of science. Still, I think it raises questions of sexual ethics.
If we want to go deeper into gay sexual ethics, it may be helpful to read “Sex and the Sacred: Gay Identity and Spiritual Growth” by Daniel A Helminiak, an excellent gay theologian and psychologist. It includes chapters on “Sexual Ethics without Religion” and “The Right and Wrong of Sex, Queer or Otherwise.”
Sex and the Sacred: Gay Identity and Spiritual Growth
Eric, I also appreciate this essay because I have wondered if it is worthwhile to post and respond to negative comments like the one about St. Hildegard and her “worst” quality being her love for another woman. Now I know that it IS worth doing.
Finally I want to respond briefly to DaytonaDan. I’m sorry to break the news to you, but the word “saint” appears more than 60 times in the Bible! You can check the references at this link:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=saints&x=0&y=0
I’ll close with an especially beautiful passage that mentions saints. It comes from The Epistle of Paul to the Ephesians 3:17-19:
“I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the SAINTS, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.”
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Kitt,
I will be responding in the next 24 hours. Today turned crazy on me.
In the meantime, thank you for your comments:D
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Kitt,
Thank you for your comments yesterday. As is always the case, our interactions always leave me feeling very good about life! You say the nicest things!
In retrospect, I think I should have let that blog entry percolate a little longer. I had intended to work on it more, and then instead rushed to publish it, and in so doing I neglected elements of my thought process. In it’s simplest possible formulation, my opinion would have been better stated as “mutual consensus of all concerned”. This formulation might have better served my intention of writing a mere opinion piece. But, once I “submitted” this article to you, it stepped beyond “an opinion piece” and became an article that deserved more development.
In light of that, the formulation which began as “mutual consensus” having now developed to “mutual consensus of all concerned” probably deserves more fleshing out regarding what you state… namely that, depending upon the circumstances, “all concerned” may very well extend beyond those directly involved in the sexual behavior to include an ever widening community… certainly spouses or significant others… and perhaps even beyond that to family members and even a circle of friends (and coworkers). Sexual ethics certainly comes in to play.
Regarding your arguments vis a vis sexually transmitted disease, I’m truly not capable of addressing this at this time. It would seem to me I need to do a little research in this area in order for me to devise a more carefully worded formula.
As to Jesus’s “cruising”… I still feel great discomfort with that. While I might be able to “wrap my head around” Jesus cruising for single unattached individuals (may being the operative word,) that Jesus would be “cruising” with the intent of “hooking up” with married men… or married women… is just absolutely alien to my beliefs and in this situation I don’t think any amount of shock will get me through that.
Like you, Kitt, I’ve always wondered about Jesus calling Peter away from Peter’s wife. I understand that our relationship with God must be such that no one else gets between us and God, even family. But the rejection of family still does not set well with me. I am not sure how to reconcile this, any more, for that matter, than I can reconcile Jesus’ own apparent rejection of his own family.
Eric
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